Re: Update on the progress of slew development

From: Casper Ti. Vector <>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:42:39 +0800

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 03:30:02PM +0100, Oliver Schad wrote:

A closer look at this snippet reveals that most changes therein are:
1. Customisations of `s6-log.rc', probably modifying the logging user.
2. Addition of unshipped services (eg. postfix).
3. Deletion of unused services (eg. dcron and busybox cron).
4. Other regular customisations similar to what I showed yesterday.

Regarding 1, if you (as I guessed) want to just use `nobody' for all
logs (which is, BTW, strongly discouraged!), I have just pushed commit
a1ffc647 so you can simply delete `s6-log.rc' of services for this
purpose, provided that you do not plan to change the $args or $logd of
these services.

Regarding 2 and 3, and noticing the presence of `db' and `prep.main'
(BTW, `prep.main' and `db/old.main' are supposed to be deleted after
successful `lib/build.rc'/`s6-rc-update' invocations), it is likely that
you directly cloned slew's git repository into /etc. I personally think
this makes updating complicated; and since git ignores ownership,
permission bits (except for the `x' bit) and empty directories, the
structure of /etc/slew would drift from the expected status in certain

Instead, I think a better way to distribute slew is to break it into
multiple packages for the intended distro, with the packaging script(s)
essentially performing the jobs of yesterday's `' and
* A "base" package: including the `init' / `run' directories, absolutely
  essential services in `base', and a small `main' config somewhat like
  the shipped one).
* Multiple packages for other services (eg. OpenVPN and wpa_supplicant):
  each including the necessary service definitions in `base', and
  corresponding ancillary files in `misc'.
* The most important ancillary files are preprocessing passes like
  `misc/openvpn/70-openvpn.rc', which should of course be installed into
  /etc/slew/lib/prep. They are not directly put into `lib/prep' because
  unlike extra service definitions in `base', extra preprocessing passes
  results in actual overhead when `lib/prep.rc' is run. (The user can
  disable preprocessing passes by removing the `x' bit from the
  corresponding files, cf. `lib/prep.rc').
* Patches like `misc/thinkfan/thinkfan-0.9.3-fglog.patch' are intended
  to be applied to distro packages to increase their compliance with
  s6's way of longrun management (usually about logging), and therefore
  can be omitted from the service packages. Other ancillary files are
  intended to be installed into locations outside of /etc/slew, like
  `misc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_cli.rc' should be installed into
  /etc/wpa_supplicant, in accordance with `base/wpacli./run'.
Perhaps these intentions were not as clear as I thought they should
implicitly (inferred from the codebase) be; I am sorry for that.

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