Re: State of projects

From: Laurent Bercot <>
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2020 14:22:31 +0000

>I'd like to know what is your view and feeling of this expanding base,
>what does it mean to you, and whether you see an influence of the
>project by the growing popularity. If I can interpret this announcement
>correctly you seem already to be reacting to the Debian s6 incorporation
>fiasco more than the projects who have treated s6 with greater respect.

  I don't quite understand what you mean.
  I love that the s6 base is expanding, I really appreciate that we have
a community around it, and I've always been committed to supporting it.

  I keep repeating that I'm always willing to help people who are trying
to integrate s6 in their projects; it just so happens that, for many
excellent reasons, I don't get many requests. But when people reach out
to me, I try to make good on the promise: for instance, making
s6-linux-init sysvinit-compatible was a request from Adélie Linux; it
took about two weeks of vacation time and a few week-ends; 100% worth,
because that's what made it possible to have s6 as init in Adélie, which
I'm very happy with and grateful to the whole Adélie community for.

  The big pain point for further s6 integration in distros, as _every
single one_ of those I contacted told me, is the user interface, and
UX return is basically driving my career. It is a big project that will
need a lot of focused, uninterrupted time, so I'm currently trying to
max out my earnings over 3 years so I'm able to take a whole year off to
work on that project.

  The Debian thing is a minor annoyance; it took two week-ends and a
evenings to address it. You see me address minor annoyances more than
Big Request because it's all I have time and energy for while working on
an outside contract. Maintenance things, tweaks around the edges, light
QoL adjustments, and community support on IRC; no big developments.

  So, in that context, I don't understand your point; could you clarify?

  On a related note, it should now be obvious that the main obstacle to
further s6 growth is the lack of time I can spend on it, and that comes
directly from the need to self-fund. As a consequence (and I'm
the whole community here), if you like s6 - or other projects of mine -
and want to see it become more widely adopted, the best thing you can do
is find me sponsors! Long-term sponsoring would allow me to work on
projects full-time, and *then* they would take off.

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